Scout 44
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tealcherokee
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if i remember, the scout 44's have smaller tubes, or thinner wall tubes, or something like that, and a 5x5.5 bolt pattern
mikecooper
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johnny send those pics i sent you of it, id have to meaure it tomorrow for offset but visually it doesnt look offset at all.
Root Moose
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There's a couple theads on here with content about using a Scout 44. Based upon that I decided to use the one I have. I'm a few weeks away (perpetually) from putting it in (ARB, 4.56, WARN FF).
Couple things to know about the Scout II 44:
- about 58" wide (i.e. ~2" less than XJ)
- The tubes are indeed thinner than other 44s
- 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern (get new shafts made, redrill(?) or WARN front hubs)
- shafts are identical left to right (slight offset alluded to above).
I'm using 5" BS wheels so I may end up adding spacers for the rear. I'm not certain if the FF kit will increase the width or if rear disks may. I'm hoping that I can keep a sligthly narrower rear axle for better tracking and a slightly narrower turning circle. We'll see what happens.
I'm not terribly worried about the thin tubes. If they stand up to a IH 345 and the weight of a Scout II on 33"-35" tires it should be fine in an XJ.
HTH
Couple things to know about the Scout II 44:
- about 58" wide (i.e. ~2" less than XJ)
- The tubes are indeed thinner than other 44s
- 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern (get new shafts made, redrill(?) or WARN front hubs)
- shafts are identical left to right (slight offset alluded to above).
I'm using 5" BS wheels so I may end up adding spacers for the rear. I'm not certain if the FF kit will increase the width or if rear disks may. I'm hoping that I can keep a sligthly narrower rear axle for better tracking and a slightly narrower turning circle. We'll see what happens.
I'm not terribly worried about the thin tubes. If they stand up to a IH 345 and the weight of a Scout II on 33"-35" tires it should be fine in an XJ.
HTH
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xj-grin
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Well, I don't think so. I used to run a Scout II D44, and all of the above is spot on. I think the standard scout (800) D44's however, are like CJ width, max 56" which will probably be too tight to get your spring perches inside the backing plates (43.5 on center). The backing plates are within an inch or so of the perches even on the Scout II axle...xjj33p3r said:
Root Moose
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Additionally, the old style Scouts (i.e. not a Scout II) used the Dana 18 t-case which means an offset rear diff.xj-grin said:
If the diff is centered (ok, offset ~2" to one side to accomodate identical shafts side to side) then the axle came out of a Scout II if it is being sold as a Scout axle.
IIRC, 1973 (earlier?) was the first year for the Scout II. Look it up at binderbulletin.org to be certain though if the year range is close. Post '74 is definitely a Scout II.